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The Dark Matter of Change and the 4 Levels of Listening
- Randall Rogers
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From Week 4 of Leading Through Complexity
Week 4 is where we begin cracking complexity in earnest. We introduce the seven-step process of the Complexity Leadership Model and start with Step 1A: exposing inner-system complexity. That's the complexity inside each of us.
It might seem odd to start a model for organizational change with the individual. But I've learned that's where the most powerful leverage sits.
Five Percent of the Universe
I like to use an image from cosmology. Dark matter is a hypothetical form of matter. It's invisible, difficult to detect and hidden from view.
Yet it's the most significant component influencing the behavior of the known universe. When you look up at the night sky, what you're seeing is just 5% of the known universe. The other 95% is dark.
Organizations are similar. The visible parts (strategy, structure, process, metrics) are the 5%. The dark matter is inside each of us: our assumptions, biases, beliefs and blind spots. These are the dark constraints we explored in Week 3, and they're the most significant element influencing organizational performance and results.
You Are Not Your Thoughts
So how do you work with something you can't see? The first strategy is to notice your own thinking.
I encourage participants to think of the brain as a thought factory. Step back and take a helicopter view: your brain is producing thoughts all day long. That distance lets us recognize something important:
"We're not our thoughts… we have thoughts, we're not our point of view, we have a point of view."
Once you can notice a thought rather than be it, you can examine it. Is this assumption true? Where did it come from?
Whose experience is it based on? That small act of noticing is where inner-system change begins, for you and for the leaders you work with.
We Don't Listen, We Reload
A second strategy is to deepen the quality of listening. Here I draw on the work of Otto Scharmer and his four levels of listening.
Downloading. Listening from habit, reconfirming what we already know. The famous phrase for this level is: "We do not listen, we reload." We're simply waiting to say what we were already going to say.
Factual. Listening for what's new or different, for data that disconfirms our views.
Empathic. Listening from inside another person's perspective, seeing through their eyes.
Generative. Listening for what wants to emerge, for what is wanting to be born.
Each shift takes intention. To move from downloading to factual, we listen for disconfirming data, stepping outside our egos to consider points of view different from our own. To move from factual to empathic, we suspend and redirect ourselves, putting ourselves in another person's shoes both cognitively and emotionally. To move from empathic to generative, we listen for what wants to emerge.
I often use the four levels as a real-time diagnostic when I'm facilitating. Where are the conversations right now? What do I need to do as a change agent to make the shift to go deeper?
Let Silence Be Your Teacher
The four levels of listening naturally lead to four levels of conversing, from polite talk to debate to reflective dialogue to generative dialogue. At the deepest level, something interesting happens. People stop filling every gap.
Ideas build on one another. And silence stops being uncomfortable and becomes productive.
"Let silence be your teacher."
For many leaders this is the hardest practice of all. We've been rewarded for having quick answers. But in complex challenges, the pause is often where the insight lives.
Why Start with the Inner System?
Because dark constraints become governing constraints. Every policy, process and structure in an organization was shaped by somebody's assumptions. If we skip the inner work and go straight to redesigning the visible system, we tend to rebuild the same patterns with new labels. When we start by exposing inner-system complexity, our own and our leaders', we change the source.
Try This
In your next three conversations, quietly notice which level you're listening from. When you catch yourself downloading (reloading your reply while the other person is still talking), pause, get curious and ask one more question before you respond.
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